Just Liberty
Just Liberty: Where Justice and Liberty Meet The whole idea of religious freedom in America has taken a PR hit. For some, it’s a cover for bigotry or tool for Christian nationalists; for others it’s the last line of defense in a society that’s becoming hostile to traditional faith. Is there a better way to think and talk about religious freedom in America that doesn’t buy into political extremes? Join hosts Alan Reinach, executive director of the Church-State Council, who has been litigating religious liberty cases for nearly 40 years, and Bettina Krause, editor of Liberty Magazine, which has been at the forefront of religious liberty conversations since 1906. Together, they interview experts in law, politics, and faith, and tackle tough religious freedom questions, not just from the courts but also from culture. Listen to Just Liberty for a fresh, balanced take on religious liberty and church-state issues. Coming Spring 2024. Subscribe now so you never miss an episode.
Episodes

Wednesday May 22, 2024
Wednesday May 22, 2024
Many Americans believe that religious folk want to have their cake and eat it, too. People of faith want to be protected from discrimination, but they claim the right to discriminate. They want the state to provide robust legal protection and accommodations, but they also want the state to take a hands-off approach when it comes to how religious institutions operate in society.
What's really going on here? And is the Supreme Court's pro-religion streak actually privileging religion in unhealthy ways?
Interview with Steven K. Green, Professor of Law and Director of the Center for Religion, Law & Democracy, Willamette University.
Show Notes
Article by Prof. Green for Liberty magazine on the Supreme Court's lopsided approach to the religion clauses of the First Amendment - https://www.libertymagazine.org/article/disrupted-symmetry

Tuesday May 21, 2024
Tuesday May 21, 2024
Religious freedom in America may be headed toward the edge of a cliff. Why? Because survey after survey shows that younger generations of Americans neither understand nor value the crucial role religious freedom plays in our democracy.
What's behind this worrying trend? And can anything be done to rehabilitate the reputation of religious freedom in the eyes of Gen-Zs and Millennials?
Interview with Jaziah B. Masters, Research Fellow, Center for Faith, Justice and Reconciliation, Baptist Joint Committee.
Show Notes
Article by Jaziah Masters for Liberty magazine: "A Religious Freedom Wake-up Call" - https://www.libertymagazine.org/article/a-religious-freedom-wake-up-call

Monday May 20, 2024
Monday May 20, 2024
Should a religious student club have the same access and support on campus as a secular student club? And can a religious student club require its leadership to pledge support for a shared statement of faith?
A recent court decision in California provides hopeful signs that the pendulum may be swinging back toward a fairer deal for students of faith on America's campuses.
Interview with Kim Colby, Center for Law and Religious Freedom, Christian Legal Society.
Show Notes
A win for religious freedom in the 9th Circuit case of Fellowship of Christian Athletes v. San Jose Unified School District: https://www.thefire.org/news/fellowship-christian-athletes-scores-big-ninth-circuit-win-religious-liberty-and-freedom
Case summary: https://www.christianlegalsociety.org/project/fellowship-of-christian-athletes-and-san-jose-unified-school-district/

Friday May 17, 2024
Friday May 17, 2024
There's been a rash of state-level laws recently that mandate the posting of "The Ten Commandments" on the walls of public school classrooms. What's behind this? And whose version of these biblical commands are we talking about, anyway?
Interview with Marc Zvi Brettler, Professor of Jewish Studies, Duke University.
Show Notes
The Torah website for academic biblical scholarship - https://www.thetorah.com
Article by Dr. Brettler for Liberty magazine "Thou Shalt Not Lie: The Myth of the Ten Commandments" - https://www.libertymagazine.org/article/thou-shalt-not-lie

Thursday May 16, 2024
Thursday May 16, 2024
It's often been said that those who forget the past are destined to repeat it. If this is true, then we should be taking note of rising rates of antisemitism--not just in America but around the world.
Our conversation in this episode weaves together an intensely personal family history with a discussion of cultural and political warning signs that we would be wise to heed.
Interview with Richard T. Foltin, Fellow for Religious Freedom, Freedom Forum
Show Notes
Article by Dr. Foltin for Liberty magazine: "Yesterday and Today: Ruminations of a Second Generation Holocaust Survivor" https://www.libertymagazine.org/article/yesterday-and-today

Wednesday May 15, 2024
Wednesday May 15, 2024
For a country that claims religious freedom as a fundamental value, America has sometimes had an odd way of showing it--especially when it comes to workplace accommodations for people of faith. Whether it's time off for Sabbaths, or permission to wear religious garb on the job, American workers have had weak legal protection. That is, until now.
What changed with the recent Supreme Court decision in Groff v. Dejoy? And how should people of faith now understand their rights in the workplace?
Interview with Hiram Sasser, Executive General Counsel, First Liberty Institute
Show Notes
First Liberty Institute | Website - https://firstliberty.org
News coverage of Supreme Court win for religious freedom in Groff v. Dejoy - https://firstliberty.org/news/in-the-news-faithful-carrier-victory/
Best practices for employers updating their religious non-discrimination policies - https://firstliberty.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/BusinessCaseOnePager.pdf

Tuesday May 14, 2024
Tuesday May 14, 2024
It's a decision that gave many Supreme Court watchers a bad case of whiplash. For decades, the Court said that direct state funding for faith-based schools was constitutionally forbidden. But in Carson v Makin, the Court said that those same religion clauses require the state to fund religious schools in some circumstances.
What's behind the Court's 180-degree turn on this issue? And how could it potentially transform our educational landscape?
Show Notes
"A Matter of Interpretation" by Alan Brownstein | Article for Liberty Magazine current trajectory of First Amendment jurisprudence
"A Step Too Far"? by Nicholas Miller, Alan Reinach | Article for Liberty Magazine on the landmark Supreme Course case, Carson v. Makin

Monday May 13, 2024
Monday May 13, 2024
Twenty-five years ago, the United States became the first and only nation to link religious freedom advocacy with its foreign policy goals. Why? And what has this achieved?
A former State Department official provides an insider's take on how the International Religious Freedom Act of 1998 changed the face of U.S. foreign policy, and what's ahead.
Show Notes
Knox Thames | Website
"Saving International Religious Freedom" by Knox Thames | Article for Liberty Magazine
"Neither Liberal nor Conservative but American" by Knox Thames | Article for Liberty Magazine
Fact-sheet on the International Religious Freedom Act of 1998 | Article

Friday May 10, 2024
Friday May 10, 2024
Christian nationalism has been in the media spotlight ever since the tumultuous events of January 6, 2021. But finding an agreed-upon definition for this phenomenon has proved elusive.
What are we really talking about when we call someone a Christian nationalist? And how accurate, really, is that "Christian" label?
Interview with Amanda Tyler, Executive Director, Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty.
Show Notes
Baptist Joint Committee | Website
Christians Against Christian Nationalism | Website
Respecting Religion | Podcast

Sunday Mar 10, 2024
Sunday Mar 10, 2024
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