Just Liberty
Just Liberty: Where Justice and Liberty Meet The whole idea of religious freedom in America has taken a PR hit. For some, it’s a cover for bigotry or tool for Christian nationalists; for others it’s the last line of defense in a society that’s becoming hostile to traditional faith. Is there a better way to think and talk about religious freedom in America that doesn’t buy into political extremes? Join hosts Alan Reinach, executive director of the Church-State Council, who has been litigating religious liberty cases for nearly 40 years, and Bettina Krause, editor of Liberty Magazine, which has been at the forefront of religious liberty conversations since 1906. Together, they interview experts in law, politics, and faith, and tackle tough religious freedom questions, not just from the courts but also from culture. Listen to Just Liberty for a fresh, balanced take on religious liberty and church-state issues. Coming Spring 2024. Subscribe now so you never miss an episode.
Episodes

2 hours ago
2 hours ago
As the Trump administration redraws the boundaries of executive authority, are we merely in the midst of a constitutional "adjustment"? Or are we staring down a constitutional crisis with long term implications for civil liberties?
Guest:
David French, New York Times columnist
Show Notes:
Advisory Opinions podcast: https://thedispatch.com/podcast/advisoryopinions/ Recent articles by David French in the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/by/david-french#latest

Tuesday Mar 25, 2025
Tuesday Mar 25, 2025
Houses of worship are no longer off-limits for immigration enforcement as the Trump administration pursues aggressive new policies. But some faith groups are drawing First Amendment lines and asking the courts to enforce them.
Guest:
Noah Merrill, Secretary, New England Yearly Meeting of Friends
Show Notes:
The legal complaint filed by Quakers and others against the new immigration enforcement policies: https://democracyforward.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Complaint.pdf
Background information to the case and preliminary injunction: https://www.friendsjournal.org/quakers-sue-immigration/ Website for the New England Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends: https://neym.org

Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
Do public schools have to be faith-free zones? Or is this a misunderstanding of our Constitution's First Amendment? We delve into the dos and don'ts of religious expression at school, as well as the rationale for these guardrails.
Guest: Richard Foltin, Senior Fellow, Freedom Forum
Show Notes: "Freedom Forum's Guidelines for Religion in Public Schools: https://www.freedomforum.org/content/uploads/2025/01/religion-and-public-schools.pdf
Liberty magazine article on teaching human origins at school: https://www.libertymagazine.org/article/adam-and-eve-go-to-school
Liberty magazine article on Louisiana effort to place "In God We Trust" signs in classrooms: https://www.libertymagazine.org//article/pushing-the-boundaries

Tuesday Mar 11, 2025
Tuesday Mar 11, 2025
The stories keep on coming--with new federal policies in place, even immigrants with legal status are afraid to go to church or send their children to school. How can individuals navigate this new immigration enforcement landscape?

Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
Could immigration enforcement policy be a religious liberty issue? Under new federal enforcement policies, churches and church properties are no longer off limits for raids or other enforcement activities. How should churches respond?
Guests:
Steve Allred, attorney and religious liberty advocate
Jason Mustard, immigration attorney

Tuesday Feb 25, 2025
Tuesday Feb 25, 2025
It sounds plausible. There must be some net positives from exposing school children to biblical values, right? But is this true? What are the issues that Christians should consider in the face of the growing push for so-called "10 Commandment laws"?
Guest: Amireh Al-Haddad, religious liberty advocate
Show notes:
Liberty magazine articles:
"Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods." https://www.libertymagazine.org/article/thou-shalt-have-no-other-gods
"Thou Shalt Not Lie" - https://www.libertymagazine.org/article/thou-shalt-not-lie
Public Affairs and Religious Liberty, Southern Union of Seventh-day Adventists https://www.southernunion.com/ministries-services/religious-liberty/

Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
The avalanche of COVID-era vaccine exemption requests represented a "stress test" for the American legal system. What did we learn about how religious liberty is protected in America today?
Show Notes:
Church State Council wesbite: https://www.churchstate.org
Cherne Law P.C. website: https://www.chernelaw.com

Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
A little-known political philosophy seeks to fuse religious mandates with a new understanding of political power. What is Catholic integralism? And how would it revolutionize church-state relations in America?
Guest:
Dr. Kevin Vallier, author and professor, University of Toledo.
FB: https://www.facebook.com/kevinvallier1X: https://x.com/kvallier
Shownotes:
Kevin Vallier author website: https://www.kevinvallier.comBook: All The Kingdoms of The World: On Radical Religious Alternatives to Liberalism. https://bit.ly/41gwP26 Liberty magazine book review of Adrian Vermeule's Common Good Constitutionalism. https://www.libertymagazine.org//article/adventures-in-christian-authoritarianism

Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
Since 1950s, the so-called Johnson Amendment has been a lightning rod for controversy. Is it an unconstitutional restriction on the speech rights of pastors, as a new lawsuit argues? Or a last line of defense against the politicization of America's houses of worship?
Guest:
Dr. Stephen Cook, Senior Pastor, Second Baptist Church, Memphis, TN
FB: https://www.facebook.com/2ndBaptistMemphis Insta: https://www.instagram.com/2ndmemphis/
Show Notes:
Liberty magazine article about the Johnson Amendment: Unleashing the Churches, by Michael Peabody. https://www.libertymagazine.org//article/unleashing-the-churches Background on National Broadcasters Association's lawsuit: https://bjconline.org/religious-nonprofit-targets-johnson-amendment-092724/

Tuesday Jan 28, 2025
Tuesday Jan 28, 2025
When deeply held religious beliefs clash with public school lesson plans, finding workable solutions can be a challenge. What happens, though, when a solution is obvious, but compromise has been taken off the table?
Guest:
William Haun, Senior Counsel, Becket Fund for Religious Liberty
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Insta: https://www.instagram.com/becketlaw/
Show Notes:
Case details on the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty website: https://www.becketlaw.org/case/mahmoud-v-mcknight/Liberty magazine article exploring the current law around parental rights: https://www.libertymagazine.org//article/are-children-mere-creatures-of-the-state